Class Meeting, 2.4.4

09:50:18  Paul McLean ->  hello
09:52:46  paul mclean ->  hello again
13:51:17  dougsymington -> -EdTechTalk: think we need the WCA Room Cyndi
13:51:37  dougsymington ->  greetings all
13:52:55  JL ->  Hey Doug
13:53:13  jbennett ->  hi doug
13:55:14  jbennett ->  that was mildly annoying
13:55:32  shoemap ->  Stream just started in Sandbox A and B.  Ustream on as well.
13:55:50  shoemap ->  Jeff did it.
13:55:58  derrallg ->  it was his fault :)
13:56:15  jbennett ->  so we blame it on the rain, on rio, and now on jeff
13:57:36  cyndidannerkuhn ->  that is a matter of opinion!!!
13:57:50  Matt Montagne ->  hi everyone...
13:57:51  jbennett ->  now we're hoppin'
13:58:22  kolmstead ->  HI mATT
13:58:30  Sarah S ->  Hi Matt
13:58:42  cyndidannerkuhn ->  Question, used WireTap andthought I had 9 minutes recorded, then when I went to playback, and NOthing
13:58:53  cyndidannerkuhn ->  Is there a trick to WireTap
13:58:55  Matt Montagne ->  hey Karen...
13:59:00  Matt Montagne ->  Hey Sarah
13:59:33  Matt Montagne ->  I hope Pam bought a mac
13:59:39  derrallg ->  she did
13:59:46  Matt Montagne ->  yaaaaaayyyyy
13:59:59  Matt Montagne ->  I always knew Pam was a smart woman
14:00:06  dougsymington ->  another mac, whoa--I'm a "threatened species" over here...
14:00:08  Matt Montagne ->  good decision maker
14:00:20  Eurominuteman ->  hi you'all
14:00:57  dougsymington ->  hey Euro
14:01:03  cyndidannerkuhn ->  Macs Rule
14:01:15  Karen Dennis ->  Hi everyone!
14:01:30  Matt Montagne ->  @dougsy...when will you switch over to Linux??
14:01:57  dougsymington ->  @Matt when I can find a Asus Eee in stock
14:02:47  Matt Montagne ->  hey Lorna
14:02:56  julielindsay ->  Hello Derrall, Pam and jeff......yes, I am behind!
14:02:59  lornacos ->  HI MAtt
14:03:07  lornacos ->   Hello every body
14:03:09  julielindsay ->  have been traveling and not been up with it all
14:03:26  jbennett ->  sounds good, maybe i'll be able to catch up!
14:03:33  cyndidannerkuhn ->  My Frustration is WireTap, I thought I had recording a 9 minute conservation/call, saved it and then nothing....
14:03:35  julielindsay ->  great! thanks for some breathing space
14:03:40  Matt Montagne ->  thanx
14:03:40  cyndidannerkuhn ->  grrr...  andy suggestions
14:04:43  kolmstead ->  Matt did most of the work - he did an awesome job!!!
14:05:00  Sarah S ->  Great idea about the advanced modules.
14:05:22  dougsymington ->  really looking forward to catching up with the intern-cast archive from this week
14:05:33  dougsymington ->  sounds like a *GREAT* show
14:05:46  Matt Montagne ->  @kolmstead...good team work...I'm glad we teamed up on it b/c it was so much more interesting than flying solo
14:05:47  Eurominuteman ->  i added some resources to the modules
14:06:44  cyndidannerkuhn ->  the screen cast un uStream is relaly fuzzy this week
14:06:45  shoemap ->  http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedform.html
14:06:52  Matt Montagne ->  calendaring is a good topic...
14:07:03  Matt Montagne ->  I'm still confused a little by it...
14:07:25  Matt Montagne ->  what time zone do we post for??  GMT 6 (EST) is what I was thinking
14:07:43  derrallg ->  I've been using GMT
14:07:49  lornacos ->  Yes it is tough working backward from the next day
14:07:54  Matt Montagne ->  oops, GMT 5 is EST
14:08:07  dougsymington ->  -5 I think
14:08:36  dougsymington ->  the timeanddate is the key
14:08:43  dougsymington ->  as JL says
14:08:51  Matt Montagne ->  @dougsy...got it...
14:09:37  Eurominuteman ->  i have a personal google calendar on my profile, is academy connected via my RSS
14:09:50  Sarah S ->  Do we only add events for longer webcasts? If we are practicing for 5-10 min or so, we don't have to post an "event" do we?
14:10:16  dougsymington ->  will avoid "overbooking" too
14:11:36  Matt Montagne ->  Does GMT refer to what time it is in Greenwich??
14:11:43  derrallg ->  yep
14:11:45  Matt Montagne ->  kind of a silly question I know...
14:11:54  Matt Montagne ->  @derrall...gr8, thanx
14:12:02  dougsymington ->  think they use Universal now, but that's the origin
14:12:08  derrallg ->  i'm still confused at times about it
14:12:19  dougsymington ->  it took me years ;)
14:12:34  dougsymington ->  wait till the time changes again the the spring!
14:12:36  lornacos ->  Matt taught me a trick for the skype conference on a mac
14:12:37  derrallg ->  i know i'm -8 GMT
14:12:50  Eurominuteman ->  i am GMT+1
14:12:55  lornacos ->  when you are in a conference you drag and drop a contact into the conference
14:13:02  Matt Montagne ->  do, if it is 9 am in Greewich, then in New York it would be 9am - 5 so it would be 4 am??
14:13:12  kolmstead ->  yep
14:13:14  dougsymington ->  that's it
14:13:21  Matt Montagne ->  gr8
14:14:59  Matt Montagne ->  One question...just wondering about strreaming to the Academy Ustream account...do you want us to practice this as well??
14:16:18  julielindsay ->  get there via My Stuff
14:16:28  jbennett ->  jeff, that was a total office space. gary cole voice "Um, yeah, ummk?"
14:16:33  julielindsay ->  then Create
14:16:35  julielindsay ->  then Event
14:16:54  cyndidannerkuhn ->  My stuff, Create Event
14:17:54  Madeline_Here ->  Hi, just got in. Sorry, I'm late
14:17:59  shoemap ->  Cindi and Matt - we'll answer your questions soon
14:18:30  cyndidannerkuhn ->  k
14:19:42  cyndidannerkuhn ->  ok thanks
14:19:47  cyndidannerkuhn ->  mo problem
14:19:50  cyndidannerkuhn ->  no
14:20:26  dougsymington ->  brady bunch effect for student cams is fun
14:20:27  Karen Dennis ->  Anyone have a suggestionfor what  else can be used to record audio other then Audacity for windows?
14:20:34  Sarah S ->  Can we do it with our own ustream account through worldbridges?
14:20:36  JL ->  http://www.webcastacademy.net/webcams
14:20:37  cyndidannerkuhn ->  gotta scoot, you guys have a good day
14:20:44  dougsymington ->  @Karen why not audacity?
14:21:01  Karen Dennis ->  The tech guy at my university thinks my volume problem may be Audacity and Dell combined as to my problem
14:21:23  Karen Dennis ->  Remember last week I can record my skype call, but you can hardly hear my caller's voice
14:21:31  dougsymington ->  we've got some Dell soundcard info here somewhere
14:21:42  dougsymington ->  many of us have had probs/issues
14:21:47  dougsymington ->  with Dell
14:21:51  dougsymington ->  and drivers
14:21:58  Matt Montagne ->  IT folks are telling a tale I think...
14:22:21  Karen Dennis ->  simplecast
14:22:31  Karen Dennis ->  was that what you said?
14:22:55  dougsymington ->  yes re simplecast
14:23:01  Karen Dennis ->  Wonderful!! thanks
14:23:02  Sarah S ->  Just a general question. If you want to stream a screencast, what is the best option for good resolution? Yugma? What for more than 10 people at once?
14:23:08  dougsymington ->  make sure in the config settings you've set it to archive
14:23:19  dougsymington ->  the stream and it will record an mp3
14:23:47  Eurominuteman ->  is academy RSS linked to my personal calendar in my profile?
14:24:16  Sarah S ->  Thanks
14:24:27  Matt Montagne ->  we have questions about making sure audio levels ar e the same amonst all parties...
14:24:35  dougsymington ->  how do webcammax and yugma play together JL?
14:24:42  jane jiang ->  HI all, my question is it is would be ok when i stream that i would hear from interview partner from my speaker?
14:25:04  jane jiang ->  bec ause it is only way i can record the skype call
14:25:49  Eurominuteman ->  my personal calendar is under my password
14:25:50  Madeline_Here ->  Is it me? or is it a feature of the viewer....everything is very very blurry, to th epoint that it is useless.
14:25:53  Matt Montagne ->  and I have some questions about using external speakers when streaming...eg-what are some best practices for havng small groups in the same room listening in and participating?
14:26:19  Matt Montagne ->  it got so echoey...
14:26:23  dougsymington ->  I'm interest in trying more of that too
14:26:37  Eurominuteman ->  my calendar has RSS, so it can be added to the academy calendar
14:26:38  dougsymington ->  keep mic behind the speakers if poss
14:26:45  kolmstead ->  @matt - it was only echoey? at the end
14:27:00  kolmstead ->  @matt - is echoey a word?
14:27:02  Matt Montagne ->  @Karen...yep, that was my problem at the end...
14:27:14  dougsymington ->  muting and unmuting to add audio from "the room" helps I think
14:27:18  Matt Montagne ->  I had speakrs pointing away from mic
14:27:28  Matt Montagne ->  but it still bounced back to mic
14:27:38  dougsymington ->  some noise-cancellation hardware I'm guessing
14:27:41  Madeline_Here ->  is there a link to the screecast? The ustream  screen is too blurry for me.
14:27:46  dougsymington ->  in terms of the mic used
14:27:50  Matt Montagne ->  and I was streaming...so I had echo anyway...
14:28:00  Matt Montagne ->  that is cool Jeff
14:28:01  dougsymington ->  I'm interested in experimenting more with the concept too
14:28:06  Matt Montagne ->  gr8 visual
14:28:11  Eurominuteman ->  echo can be controlled using an equalizer
14:28:18  dougsymington ->  like to be able to bring "groups to the convo"
14:28:40  sheila ->  How do you do a sound check on a mac?
14:29:08  Madeline_Here ->  I would like to follow along with the visuals; if someone would post the link to the screencast that would be helpful.
14:29:16  Eurominuteman ->  an equalizer can suppress resonance frequencies
14:29:26  Madeline_Here ->  should ustream be blurry?
14:29:27  JL ->  webcastacademy.net/live
14:29:31  Madeline_Here ->  I have ustream on.
14:29:38  Matt Montagne ->  Jeff...how did you get audacity to pick it up like that for your test?
14:29:41  Matt Montagne ->  that was cool
14:29:50  jane jiang ->  i read somewhere mentioned of echo to use speaker.or else i cant get skype lady record without using speaker that i set audio on skype from my soundcard
14:30:01  Madeline_Here ->  same degree of blurriness at every size
14:30:17  Madeline_Here ->  oh well....nothing to see now anyway
14:30:18  Eurominuteman ->  the energy of resonance frequencies is reduced using an equalizer
14:30:56  lornacos ->  I have a question about viewing screencasts - in watching JL jing screencast about editing audacity  - the audio stops
14:31:09  kolmstead ->  my skype is trmsteach
14:31:29  JL ->  what's the question Lorna?
14:32:20  dougsymington ->  love the back story
14:32:35  lornacos ->  the audio stops in the screencast about edting audio audacity
14:33:14  JL ->  ah, that happened with some of the early screencasts - was still figuring out how to use camtasia
14:33:30  JL ->  perhaps time for a new version
14:33:33  lornacos ->  ok
14:34:12  lornacos ->  MAtt never sounds nervous
14:34:17  dougsymington ->  it's true when you "go live" you'll be nervous, and you'll *ALWAYS* forget something
14:34:18  JL ->  Also Lorna, wanted to double check - you're parents as partners webcast is at 13:30 GMT (not 01:30GMT) right?
14:34:35  kolmstead ->  @matt - it was Sheila
14:35:06  dougsymington ->  that's where the team backing each other up is so important
14:35:13  lornacos ->  ok I mean 8:30 EST  that not 1:30 am GNMT?
14:35:23  lornacos ->  GMT
14:35:25  JL ->  correct
14:36:00  dougsymington ->  love to hear student voices in conversations
14:36:06  lornacos ->  I was not clear 8:30 pm EST = 1:30 am GMT
14:36:19  derrallg ->  @doug me too
14:36:19  kolmstead ->  We had students come up with questions ahead of time and most of them posted on the wiki
14:36:34  kolmstead ->  @derrallg - my skype is trmsteach
14:36:43  derrallg ->  ok, i was looking
14:36:43  dougsymington ->  it's hard for all of us to know when to talk
14:36:48  dougsymington ->  in a setting like that
14:37:23  dougsymington ->  have you JL
14:37:23  jbennett ->  yes
14:37:25  Madeline_Here ->  Yes
14:37:28  Sarah S ->  yes
14:37:28  dougsymington ->  no others
14:37:30  derrallg ->  hold on careash
14:37:33  sonjag ->  I just heard a bunch of feedback then lost the audio. Is anyone else having this problem?
14:37:36  jbennett ->  skype crash
14:37:38  Karen Dennis ->  I can hear you
14:37:40  lornacos ->  yes
14:37:43  dougsymington ->  yes, they'll be back
14:37:46  lornacos ->  no sound
14:37:48  dougsymington ->  please standby
14:37:57  Madeline_Here ->  Jeff, where are you that we can hear you?
14:37:59  Eurominuteman ->  ?
14:38:00  Matt Montagne ->  mayday, mayday!!
14:38:06  Matt Montagne ->  I can hear jeff...
14:38:08  jbennett ->  now your cutting in and out jl
14:38:12  kolmstead ->  @derralllg - my skype is not responding, give me a minute and try again
14:38:14  dougsymington ->  he's streaming, the skype call crashed
14:38:28  Eurominuteman ->  *)
14:38:55  dougsymington ->  hey, welcome back--it's not the crash, it's the recovery
14:39:01  dougsymington ->  well done
14:39:11  Eurominuteman ->  ok
14:39:32  Matt Montagne ->  cool doug
14:39:35  Madeline_Here ->  ustream cuts in and out, maybe my own bandwidth problem?
14:39:42  dougsymington ->  ty
14:39:46  Matt Montagne ->  I was thinking about a webcastathon for earth day 2008
14:39:51  Karen Dennis ->  it's cutting in and out on me too
14:40:00  Matt Montagne ->  would like to hear about your experiences...
14:40:07  Sarah S ->  JL - yes video is better - but audio is cutting in and out.
14:40:11  dougsymington ->  @Matt cool, what's the date?
14:40:21  Matt Montagne ->  april 22nd, 2008
14:40:24  Matt Montagne ->  a tuesday
14:40:30  jbennett ->  video is better, but jl is cutting out
14:40:41  dougsymington ->  sounds like fun!
14:41:00  kolmstead ->  @derrallg - it finally worked
14:41:02  sheila ->  had to switch to realplayer
14:41:20  Matt Montagne ->  it would be neat to have people take the reigns at different times
14:41:48  dougsymington ->  yes, it fun to have different pov/mods along the way, for sure
14:42:25  JL ->  Sounds great, I nominate Matt for Earth Day Webcastathon Coordinator
14:42:35  dougsymington ->  I second
14:42:42  derrallg ->  I third
14:42:47  Madeline_Here ->  lost all sound, moving over to iTunes
14:42:53  derrallg ->  congratulations Matt
14:43:03  JL ->  have others lost Ustream audio?
14:43:08  derrallg ->  we can plan all this while he is talking
14:43:18  Sarah S ->  yup. lost ustream
14:43:24  Sarah S ->  it's back.
14:43:36  sheila ->  We had 7th and 8th graders and several adults.
14:43:39  JL ->  have turned video off - hopefully that will help audio
14:44:38  lornacos ->  Matt and I are working on an webcast on Tuesday - if any one wants to join us and help it would be great
14:45:35  dougsymington ->  the "missteps" are also what makes these webcasts human--more interesting for me as a listener
14:46:08  sheila ->  One issue - I was still setting up and one student was listening by the mic. He used his full name. What do other people do about names on air?
14:46:12  jbennett ->  i do love my samson mike, it was free, but I think that they are reasonable
14:46:48  lornacos ->  we will be having two parents with us talking about social networking
14:46:48  JL ->  this one? http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1810
14:47:36  jbennett ->  http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1810
14:47:57  jbennett ->  CO1U USB Studio Condenser
14:48:07  Madleine_Here ->  You sound good in iTnes
14:48:11  jbennett ->  that's awesome
14:48:13  Madleine_Here ->  oooops iTunes
14:48:24  jbennett ->  we're being invaded!
14:48:39  Madleine_Here ->  Why sit 3-feet away?
14:48:43  jbennett ->  jeff again, that was sweet!
14:50:12  sheila ->  Asking again - what do people do with students using their names on air? Part of their AUP?
14:50:37  Madleine_Here ->  I ask middle school students to use first name only
14:50:44  shoemap ->  Jay do you use the USB Samsung Microphone for several people n the same room?
14:51:35  jbennett ->  @shoemap, we were doing a skyp call with some freinds and it worked fine, nothing substantial or academic yet
14:51:35  sheila ->  It did for one of my students . . .
14:52:06  kolmstead ->  Can't we edit the name out of the recording? Then the only problem is the live broadcast.
14:52:09  jbennett ->  $79 at amazon, http://www.amazon.com/Samson-CO1U-USB-Condenser-Mic/dp/B000AP1RE8
14:52:34  shoemap ->  @Karen, yes you can dub the name out of the recorded audio
14:52:58  kolmstead ->  we're working on the same problem
14:52:59  lornacos ->  can you tell us how you use ustream at the same time as broadcasting on sandbox a or b
14:54:47  Matt Montagne ->  alec courous wrote a post on this...but I don't know how it ties into streaming to shoutcast
14:55:37  lornacos ->  so pls clarify - web cast acadmey ustream or my own account
14:55:46  dougsymington ->  woohoo
14:55:52  dougsymington ->  go Matt, go Matt
14:55:56  Eurominuteman ->  :D
14:55:58  derrallg ->  :)
14:56:00  dougsymington ->  I'm in
14:56:05  dougsymington ->  for the 'athon
14:57:30  dougsymington ->  same time next week?
14:57:58  Matt Montagne ->  cool doug
14:58:01  Matt Montagne ->  let's talk
14:58:10  Matt Montagne ->  doug is ringer
14:58:17  Matt Montagne ->  he helped me 3 weeks ago
14:58:20  Eurominuteman ->  :p have a nice week
14:58:27  Matt Montagne ->  I didn't know I was talking to super hero
14:58:34  Sarah S ->  Enjoy the sun - I'm shovelling too JL
14:58:35  dougsymington ->  we're all learning all the time
14:58:47  dougsymington ->  I learned again this week
14:58:51  jbennett ->  not even stepping outside, wind chill will freeze skin almost on contact
14:58:52  dougsymington ->  lol
14:59:23  lornacos ->  8:30 pm EST
14:59:30  dougsymington ->  sun and swimming for sam here--great to see everyone
14:59:32  lornacos ->  help welcome
14:59:36  derrallg ->  thanks everyone
14:59:36  kolmstead ->  @jbennett - we're supposed to get that weather later this week
14:59:41  lornacos ->  no tuesday
14:59:46  lornacos ->  NOOOOO
14:59:49  lornacos ->  tuesday
14:59:52  lornacos ->   the 12th
14:59:58  JL ->  8:30pmEST, Tuesday, yes?
15:00:05  lornacos ->  right
15:00:07  lornacos ->  tuesday
15:00:16  dougsymington ->  like the piano
15:00:17  sheila ->  Thanks all!
15:00:26  lornacos ->  thanks
15:00:38  Karen Dennis ->  Thanks!  Wish me luck this week!