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Workshop 2.1.2

Workshop 2.1.2


Recording a telephony conversation


January 21, 2007

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Once you've recorded and posted your introduction, your next challenge is recording a telephony conversation.  There are a variety of way to do this.

If you want to record the conversation without streaming it to via the shoutcast server, you can use a number of skype 'extras',  3rd party recording programs, or telephony programs that support recording.  More info here.

If you want to record the conversation and stream it via the Shoutcast server, things get a bit more challenging. Methods vary based on operating system, sound card, and an assortment of other variables, but generally requires either a desktop USB mic or a USB headset that has two separate inputs (one for the mic and one for the earphoens).  It is doable with a 'regular' headset, but thusfar sound quality has been poorer and echo issues have been unavoidable. It is also doable using some kind of external mixer, but we have not yet experimented much with that method.  Windows users will most likely need to use Virtual Audio Cables , while Mac uses will need to use Audio Hijack Pro

This weeks task:  post a short (about 1 minute) recording of both ends of a telephony conversation using whatever method you can.

You can try to contact other interns or friends for the recording or if no one is available, you can call 'Skype lady' at 'echo123'

Chat Log Below /

11:56:07 Michael Foerster (2) -> momento green....

11:58:20 Michael Foerster -> greenstuder, the skypecast link is: 

12:00:05 jeff -> skypecast at:

12:01:48 CathyE -> webhuddle is good

12:03:41 jeff2 -> Webhuddle at: EdTech Talk invites you to a WebHuddle session. Click the link below to join: 

12:03:52 Michael Foerster -> I've got a question - why do we use the crazy patchwork of technology that we do? 

12:05:13 jeff -> http://trustineducation.net/

12:05:41 Michael Foerster -> Darn - I've been looking for that killer webcasting app!

12:05:57 jeff ->

12:06:30 CathyE -> I lost the chat and the webhuddle link- will you please post it again

12:06:46 Michael Foerster -> Webhuddle at: EdTech Talk invites you to a WebHuddle session. Click the link below to join:   12:03:53 [Michael Foerster] I've got a

12:07:10 sharonp -> you need to extrapolate the reciprocal of the bitrate and map it to the reverb

12:09:30 sharonp -> Michael - you are from Detroit?

12:10:10 sharonp -> my hometown! - well, actually, south Detroit - Windsor Ontario

12:10:28 Michael Foerster -> I love Windsor!

12:10:53 Michael Foerster -> I'm from Northern Michigan, but am now in forced exile in Detroit

12:11:58 sharonp -> Windsor has some lovely riverside parks and great restaurants!

12:12:02 jeff2 -> EdTech Talk invites you to a WebHuddle session. Click the link below to join: 

12:13:50 sharonp -> webhuddle is so great

12:14:01 VanceS -> what's teh email and password in the webhuddle

12:14:24 sharonp -> your own presumably

12:14:30 sharonp -> just need email and name

12:14:34 sharonp -> no need for password

12:14:37 Michael Foerster -> I'm using a mac right now.  I have access to a PC as well

12:15:07 sharonp -> yeah, I got in without any of that

12:18:15 jeff ->

12:18:29 greenstuder -> I'm on Mac, too

12:19:40 CathyE -> Do we put  check n the box for both internal and external mic?

12:22:34 CathyE -> recording

12:27:27 VanceS -> I'm trying to relocate the skypecast

12:27:35 VanceS -> I can see webhuddle and this chat

12:28:22 VanceS -> I was getting the recording of others talking fine

12:28:30 greenstuder -> On Mac I have the choice of internal microphone or line in

12:28:41 VanceS -> I have an idea of issues with recording one's own voice

12:28:56 sharonp -> yikes four computers!

12:30:29 VanceS -> maybe I should ask for the skypecast  url here

12:30:30 sharonp -> I have downloaded VAC - just haven't installed and played with it yet

12:30:58 sharonp -> Vance -

12:31:07 sharonp -> I think I caught all of it

12:31:21 CathyE -> So doing it with 2 machines could be my answer since I don't have stereo mix as an option?

12:31:51 sharonp -> could I do it with one P

12:31:52 sharonp -> C

12:31:57 sharonp -> PC and one Mac?

12:32:13 VanceS -> skypecast is slow here

12:32:18 jeff -> you would need stereo mix on at least one

12:33:32 CathyE -> FYI- Dell is not supporting stereo mix any more :(

12:33:36 jeff -> cathy, can you skype in?

12:33:56 sharonp -> yikes I have a Dell - what are the implications of that?

12:34:36 sharonp -> is that just for new Dells

12:34:38 sharonp -> ?

12:36:30 jeff -> 

12:38:10 VanceS -> that's happened to me

12:38:31 Michael Foerster -> Skype can be rather strange at times....

12:39:02 VanceS -> where is the stereo mix I'm supposed to take out?

12:39:48 Do?g -> sounds like you have it selected in Audacity

12:40:19 Doug -> you could stop Audacity--could be the stream too, make sure that's off

12:40:25 Doug -> as wel

12:40:25 VanceS -> edit / preferenences?

12:40:27 Doug -> well

12:40:50 Doug -> the drop-down beside the microphone right inthe interface itself

12:41:32 VanceS -> in audacity, right?

12:41:38 Doug -> yes

12:42:13 Michael Foerster -> Jeff, I have a question regarding the Academy website, when it is appropriate (given that we are deep into webhuddle, audacity, and skype right now)

12:42:29 beyza -> Hi again

12:42:41 VanceS -> thanks doug, set it to what?

12:42:49 Michael Foerster -> Hello again

12:42:58 Doug -> microphone

12:43:42 VanceS -> done, should this clear the echo?

12:43:46 Doug -> that should help with the echo, but, again, you'd need the virtual audio cables to get "both sides" of  the recording

12:43:47 Doug -> yes

12:44:07 Doug -> but this would at least allow you to get all others

12:44:13 Doug -> in the conversation

12:44:23 greenstuder -> I have a question about how to set themmike on Mac?

12:45:05 Doug -> go ahead--don't really know mac, but will help if I can

12:45:13 VanceS -> ok, I'm recording the sound of others

12:45:15 Michael Foerster -> What version of the Mac?  Are you running OS-X?

12:45:23 Doug -> it is the same principle

12:45:44 Doug -> you'll need audio hijack, or similar "repeater" to get both side of convo on mac

12:46:22 greenstuder -> the mike

12:47:32 greenstuder -> so slow.... I have Tiger, OS X 1.4

12:48:08 greenstuder -> but it's how to do the setting on audacity, I'm wondering

12:48:57 greenstuder -> The microphone options are internal mic. or line in

12:49:44 Michael Foerster -> The Mac mic control is found in the System Preferences (found by clicking on the apple logo in the upper left; then hit "Sound", then select "Input"

12:50:45 VanceS -> that's impossible, I've been muted the past ten minutes

12:51:05 VanceS -> i mean the echo could not have come from me

12:52:49 Michael Foerster -> For my iMac I have the choice between Line In, Internal Mic (built-in), or External Mic

12:53:17 greenstuder -> I have lost the sound

12:53:30 jeff -> you left the skypecast

12:53:35 jeff -> 

12:53:56 jeff -> oops, it's finished now

12:53:59 jeff -> so you can't join

12:54:31 jeff -> you can try skyping 'worldbridges', but will need to mute your mic until we sort out your audio issues

12:55:49 Michael Foerster -> web.mac.com/skyguide

12:56:56 greenstuder -> I get the the voice mail

12:58:05 lee -> ok.. i just did a movie showing how to do the mac setup for mic and audacity

12:58:20 lee -> it will be up in about ten minutes

12:58:29 lee -> screencast tutorial i mean

12:59:05 greenstuder -> OK, but can I join the skypecast again?

12:59:58 jeff -> the skypecast closed

13:00:04 jeff -> trying to skype you directly now

13:00:16 jeff -> is 'greenstuder' your ID?

13:00:24 green?tuder -> yes

13:00:55 jeff -> says user not found

13:01:09 jeff -> hmmm

13:01:14 jeff -> try calling 'worldbridges' again

13:02:52 VanceS -> is this supposed to be visible in WebHuddle?

13:03:01 jeff -> yes

13:03:05 jeff -> I'm seeing it

13:03:18 VanceS -> I'm probably getting a lag

13:03:22 sendkathy -> hi all!

13:03:29 greenstuder -> I get therecorded

13:03:42 sendkathy -> You must be about to end, just thought I'd pop in.

13:03:51 sendkathy -> What's the webhuddle link?

13:03:52 VanceS -> should i have opened another webhuddle?

13:05:18 jeff2 -> EdTech Talk invites you to a WebHuddle session. Click the link below to join: 

13:06:17 lee -> Audio Recording & Editing session - tuesday 15:00 GMT - Channel 1

13:06:44 greenstuder -> OK, sorry my skype status was offline

13:08:14 lee -> 3 : 00 oh no

13:08:15 sharonp -> Okay so channel 1 is Sandbox A

13:08:26 lee -> wait

13:08:26 sharonp -> in Webcast Academy

13:08:48 lee -> it is 14:30 gmt

13:09:08 sharonp -> 9:30 EST?? in Sandbox A..??

13:09:20 lee -> Ok it is 930 est

13:09:45 lee -> yes.. ok

13:09:58 sharonp -> Sounds great - I should be able to make it!

13:10:11 sharonp -> i would love to have some hands-on practice!

13:11:50 sharonp ->  garageband comes with iLife

13:11:53 sharonp -> bundled with macs

13:12:08 sharonp -> Lee is a mac user - she's a pro!

13:13:15 lee -> Thank you Sharon... you are very nice!

13:14:19 greenstuder -> I've  got garage band, but  I haven't used it, not being a musician.

13:15:30 sharonp -> I have to get going along with my day.... nice to see everyone this week - good luck to us all!

13:19:10 VanceS -> the webhuddle I'm looking at has no relation to what is being said

13:19:30 VanceS -> do I have to change webhuddle links?

13:19:44 jeff -> might be a good idea vance

13:19:47 jeff -> exit and rejoin

13:20:04 jeff2 -> EdTech Talk invites you to a WebHuddle session. Click the link below to join: 

13:25:20 VanceS -> I see garageband now but it appeared after you talked about it :-)

13:29:22 JenM -> Sounds lovely!! In Sandbox A

13:29:34 jeff -> yay!

13:31:32 JenM -> Hear you later! bye!

13:31:44 greenstuder -> Thank you

13:32:39 lee ->  bye jenM

13:33:05 Michael Foerster -> Interesting!  TY!

13:36:36 lee -> It is basic but it is for greenstuder

13:36:42 jeff2 -> http://www.newmediaguides.com/movies/audacitymacsetup2.mov

13:37:10 lee -> silent movie

13:37:16 lee -> VERY basic

13:37:41 greenstuder -> Thanks a lot Lee. I really appreciate that.

13:38:44 lee -> Greenstuder, understand that you must make the choicd as to which mic you use..internal is noisier..you choose and the options will show in system preferences..then audacity will just be the one on the video

13:41:58 greenstuder -> I need to leave now. Gotta drive someone to the station. Thanks a?d buy

13:42:08 greenstuder -> byebye

13:42:42 Michael Foerster -> Bye Barbara!

13:45:23 VanceS -> I've got to go folks

13:45:56 VanceS -> 10:45 pm here, still need to have dinner

13:46:04 jeff -> thanks for hanging in so long

13:46:08 VanceS -> audios and thanks

13:46:56 Michael Foerster -> Later Vance!

14:02:50 Michael Foerster -> Thanks y'all!  Have a great day!

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